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Missing Photos

I've successfully flown and captured all images on missions with this craft (p3A) using the same sd card on the same craft/rc firmware.

 

I tried 3 times today on a mission and each time, it stops collecting images as evidenced by the dots, and then starts up again, then stops.  The mission will fly to completion successfully except for the missing images.

No other apps running in background.

Rebooted ipad Air 2 prior to flight.

sd card is empty at start. (samsung evo plus 32gb)

signal strength was excellent (>95%) during entire mission.

The only change to the whole system that I can think of is the latest Map Pilot app update to 1.5.1

screenshot during mission: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1868808/Misc/missing.jpg

 

Edit:  Just tried again with the sd card that came in the P3, a Panasonic U1, with the same result.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1868808/Misc/m2.jpg

 

This is on a relatively small mission (45 photos I think).  Any idea what may be happening?

Thank you,

Dave

 

Dave Pitman

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Adrian is correct. The only thing that would cause this is a signal strength issue. The best way to fight this is to keep the Line of Sight indicator centered.

See the following articles and posts:

http://support.dronesmadeeasy.com/hc/en-us/articles/205887566-Line-of-Sight-Indicator-and-Signal-Strength

http://support.dronesmadeeasy.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/203549653-Missing-Photos

You can see that in your screenshot it is about 60 degrees off:

I would wager that while it was not taking images this was not centered and the RC signal strength was not 100%. Post a link to your log file if this isn't the case.

 

Jay
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Looks like signal issues given where it's dropping photos over the trees.

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Hi Ryan.

I kept a pretty close eye on the signal strength and am pretty sure it never went below 95% indicated.  Is 95% too low?  While there were trees for sure,  I was very close to the aircraft (~400 ft. including height and horizontal distance) and had full LOS most of the time. 

Next time I power it up, I will pull the .dat file which is the log you are referring to, yes?

Thanks.

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The .csv files that are on your iOS device has much easier to read log files. You can run them through HealthyDrones to analyze them yourself. It is pretty easy to find problems like this.

You can get the log files off using as described in this article:

http://support.dronesmadeeasy.com/hc/en-us/articles/208342893-Accessing-Log-Files

95% is not too low of a signal but 80% is. For some reason the link to the aircraft seems to only let certain things through at different signal strengths.

It is very possible to lose comms within 400 ft if remote antennas are angled the wrong way.

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Thanks Ryan,

Well, my observation seems to be borne out by the log.  Mostly 96-100% with a few instances down to 92%.  So, the flight path is uploaded to the craft,  but the specified images are not captured if RC signal falls below ~100%?  This seems like a pretty high bar.

log:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1868808/Misc/MapPilot-04-30-2016_16-12-51.csv

 

Edit:  So I read your response here:  http://support.dronesmadeeasy.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/206660886-Mapping-long-distance

which answers the question part of my comment above.  I understand that having the app adjust when photos need taken is superior to timed capture.  However,  timed capture would be vastly superior to no capture.  Perhaps a timed capture interval could be uploaded to the aircraft as a fallback if it cannot communicate with the app.  Loosing images when the RC signal is still above 90% is problematic for real world use isn't it?

 

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If you are absolutely sure that it wasn't signal strength related you might want to choose a slower image recording speed by changing the SD card setting to a slower card.

We don't really know why triggering the camera requires such high RC signal strength. The telemetry stays intact far below the 85% or so where the camera seems to drop.

The switching between manual and automated imaging won't work with the way the DJI SDK operates.

You might have a hardware issue or something else going on if you were having this issues in close. We have done maps at nearly 2000 meters away with no issues.

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I will try a lower speed for the SD card,  However I am skeptical that that is the issue.  I would expect it to skip an image here and there regularly if that were the case.  Not blocks of images.

You say triggering an image appears to be problematic at and below 85%, but it appear to be higher than that.

As far as a hardware issue on my setup, I can only say that in all respects it seems rock solid with the exception of not triggering images in Map Pilot App.  I would add that I know how to aim dipole antennas for the best reception, and the helper antenna aimer in the app is often wrong by a bit for whatever reason.

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