DJI Air 2S weird Yaw and Roll movements

It was 5.4.6 that had the issue:

Can you please share with us the flight in your account and where the issue occurred?

Keep in mind that Virtual Stick controls are not going to be as stable as the waypoint controls in the presence of wind. 

It occurred throughout all of the flights  - every time it went to the starting point, came back home or made a turn to start a new line.  

Is this the url you are looking for?: https://www.mapsmadeeasy.com/map_pilot/missions/detail/D529CFDF-FE20-4F98-9167-C60DB2A7DC18/

It looks like there was a bit of a north wind that was making the turns and downwind flight need some correction. It won't affect the data being collected since the gimbal is doing its job nicely by rolling the gimbal to take out the yaw adjustments. 

The wind was not close to the drone's limit at all. I flew it manually afterwards and had no issues what so ever.

However, I'll try it again tomorrow with no wind and I will let you know, but it was nerve wrecking - the drone looked like it was galloping and sounded very unhappy. 

5.4.6 has some new controls in it that may need to be adjusted for the Air 2S. 

5.4.6 has some new controls in it that may need to be adjusted for the Air 2S. 

Is this something we must do or you?

Same experience here on the Air 2S. It does that on every flight and I'm updated to the newest 5.4.6 also.

I love your software, but as we are a commercial drone company, I need to know when this issue will be resolved or I will have to look at alternative software.

Are you saying that it was not like this before but is now worse? The 5.4.6 update was intended to fix issues that were present previously, not make them worse. 

I've only used DJI Phantom 4/Adv/Pro V.2 before the 5.4.6 update and everything worked very well. Tried using the DJI Air 2S for the first time the day of this post and it is not workable. The battery drains quickly due to all the rapid movements and it sounds like the drone will fall out of the sky. 

Maybe Joshua Soule  can comment if he used it with the Air 2S before the 5.4.6 update?

The DJI Phantom 4/Adv/Pro uses waypoints to control the flight. The Air 2/Air 2S/Mini 2 do not support waypoint flight but do support Virtual Stick controls. This means that instead of the aircraft flying itself with preprogrammed waypoints the app is basically flying the aircraft using simulated stick commands. Think how hard it would be to flying these lines perfectly by your own hand. That is what is the app is struggling with now. Add a little wind and it gets even harder. The adjustments we make are at 10Hz (with a bunch of latency) vs the aircraft being able to monitor things at hundreds of times per second with no delay.

This Virtual Stick support is very new and we are still working on it. 

If you are a professional user we HIGHLY recommend continuing to use the waypoint enabled aircraft if you have them available. 

Thank you, I understand your explanation, but was hoping we can replace the Phantom series with Mavics. Are all the drones using Virtual Stick experiencing similar problems than what myself and Joshua Soule is experiencing?

The goal is for it not to have those motions. We are still working on that. Ideally the flight would look like waypoint controlled flights but there will be limits to our ability to do that based on the limited controls DJI has provided for that line of aircraft. 

In our outdoor tests, 5.4.6 is largely improved over the previous versions. It may help to fly lower where there is less wind. When using Virtual Stick controls the maximum rated wind the aircraft can handle will definitely be too much to handle if you are expecting a smooth flight. 

We are certainly interested in hearing anyone else's experience in using the Air 2/S with 5.4.6 and previous versions.

Just to clarify what I see is that the movements appear to be programmed into the flight from the home point to the starting location, as if the movements are "testing" the shutter speed or doing some other programmed purpose. They do not seem to be a reaction to the wind or other variables, which it appeared at first. I have watched this action on dozens of flights and it's the same action on every flight, regardless of wind speed and other factors. Hopefully this helps troubleshoot.

Any movements in Virtual Stick flights are commanded but any deviations of the programmed line are likely due to over or under adjustments and the corrections associated with them. 

I just noticed that the speeds in the video above are pretty high. The faster things are moving the larger the adjustments that need to be made will be. 

That is also why you might be seeing the issue on the approach and return legs: those usually go at full speed. 

The highest speed that is allowed in Virtual Stick mode is 15 m/s but we may need to adjust that downward in the future. 

In the meantime, try limiting the speed using the Options Menu Speed slider to 10 meters/second (22.5 mph) or lower to see if that fixes things. It should.

I'll try bringing the speed down. Thanks for the tip.

Just a quick update on this; when setting a DJI Air 2S to max speed (~34 mph or 15.2 m/s) this happens once the aircraft reaches max airspeed. However, limiting to 20, 25 or even 30 mph seems to make it go away entirely. So yes it does seem to related to max speed.

Joshua Soule thank you very much for your feedback. Are you just limiting the speed in the Map Pilot Pro app? I'll be trying it out later today.

Thank you for the update. We will likely be limiting the speed on the VS controls to 25 mph or so in a future release. 

I've tried bringing the speed down to 10m/s and then even 5m/s and unfortunately still experiencing the same issue with the DJI Air 2S. Tried a competitor's app and flight was smooth.

The difference between what the two of you are reporting is likely due to Joshua's flights having primarily right angle corners and Hermanus's flights are doing full grid with lots of sharp corners and short passes.